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	<title>Comments on: Seattle Tree Ordinances Up For Review by City Council UPDATED 03/01/09</title>
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		<title>By: rhaglund</title>
		<link>http://www.gardenhelp.org/arboriculture/seattle-tree-ordinances-up-for-review-by-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-8826</link>
		<dc:creator>rhaglund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I know I like. Here&#039;s the full bill link: http://clerk.ci.seattle.wa.us/~scripts/nph-brs.exe?s1=&amp;s2=&amp;s3=116404&amp;s4=&amp;s5=&amp;Sect4=and&amp;l=20&amp;Sect2=THESON&amp;Sect3=PLURON&amp;Sect5=CBOR1&amp;Sect6=HITOFF&amp;d=CBOR&amp;p=1&amp;u=/~public/cbor1.htm&amp;r=1&amp;f=G

I do have concerns about enforcement and education. I want to see tree protection and people protection. But, I also hate to see new laws hit the books without proper education. 

And I&#039;m not sure the proposal addresses the issue of inheritance. What if you buy a house that has a Deodar Cedar or Big Leaf Maple in the parking strip. What&#039;s your liability/responsibility? What are home sale disclosure requirements?  What if the tree in front of the house is wrong but it&#039;s young -- will you know what you&#039;re getting into? 

I do like the idea of new construction being more strongly regulated. I hope the mitigation section is better flushed out. And, I hope that the definitions of what can and cannot be removed is better clarified. And, I hope the question of tree protection during construction is better clarified. 

I&#039;ve worked on projects in the past where big trees were removed with the stipulation that builders replace equal caliper after construction. The problem is that they type of tree wasn&#039;t defined for replacement AND the lot had been shrunk so much that the vague caliper replacement requirement didn&#039;t really mean anything. The builder put in a bunch of cypress. Got his permit cleared. Sold the house, and the homeowner pulled all the inappropriate trees out &amp; gave them back to the builder who used them on his next project. The homeowner then landscaped with appropriate trees for the new space. (And his case was a rare situation.)

Overall, I see this is a next step but not a perfect proposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I know I like. Here&#8217;s the full bill link: <a href="http://clerk.ci.seattle.wa.us/~scripts/nph-brs.exe?s1=&#038;s2=&#038;s3=116404&#038;s4=&#038;s5=&#038;Sect4=and&#038;l=20&#038;Sect2=THESON&#038;Sect3=PLURON&#038;Sect5=CBOR1&#038;Sect6=HITOFF&#038;d=CBOR&#038;p=1&#038;u=/~public/cbor1.htm&#038;r=1&#038;f=G" rel="nofollow">http://clerk.ci.seattle.wa.us/~scripts/nph-brs.exe?s1=&#038;s2=&#038;s3=116404&#038;s4=&#038;s5=&#038;Sect4=and&#038;l=20&#038;Sect2=THESON&#038;Sect3=PLURON&#038;Sect5=CBOR1&#038;Sect6=HITOFF&#038;d=CBOR&#038;p=1&#038;u=/~public/cbor1.htm&#038;r=1&#038;f=G</a></p>
<p>I do have concerns about enforcement and education. I want to see tree protection and people protection. But, I also hate to see new laws hit the books without proper education. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not sure the proposal addresses the issue of inheritance. What if you buy a house that has a Deodar Cedar or Big Leaf Maple in the parking strip. What&#8217;s your liability/responsibility? What are home sale disclosure requirements?  What if the tree in front of the house is wrong but it&#8217;s young &#8212; will you know what you&#8217;re getting into? </p>
<p>I do like the idea of new construction being more strongly regulated. I hope the mitigation section is better flushed out. And, I hope that the definitions of what can and cannot be removed is better clarified. And, I hope the question of tree protection during construction is better clarified. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked on projects in the past where big trees were removed with the stipulation that builders replace equal caliper after construction. The problem is that they type of tree wasn&#8217;t defined for replacement AND the lot had been shrunk so much that the vague caliper replacement requirement didn&#8217;t really mean anything. The builder put in a bunch of cypress. Got his permit cleared. Sold the house, and the homeowner pulled all the inappropriate trees out &#038; gave them back to the builder who used them on his next project. The homeowner then landscaped with appropriate trees for the new space. (And his case was a rare situation.)</p>
<p>Overall, I see this is a next step but not a perfect proposal.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.gardenhelp.org/arboriculture/seattle-tree-ordinances-up-for-review-by-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-8824</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I saw the list. There are tons of trees on it that I&#039;ve seen planted as street trees around here! I can see why they&#039;re on the &quot;no go&quot; list - root, debris, visibility issues galore. Just curious - do you favor all of these amendments or are there some you are not a fan of?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I saw the list. There are tons of trees on it that I&#8217;ve seen planted as street trees around here! I can see why they&#8217;re on the &#8220;no go&#8221; list &#8211; root, debris, visibility issues galore. Just curious &#8211; do you favor all of these amendments or are there some you are not a fan of?</p>
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		<title>By: rhaglund</title>
		<link>http://www.gardenhelp.org/arboriculture/seattle-tree-ordinances-up-for-review-by-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-8821</link>
		<dc:creator>rhaglund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just in:

Council President Richard Conlin got in touch to let me know the hearing will be held on December 15, 2008 at 5:30pm and will be open to public comment.

The agenda is here: http://www.seattle.gov/council/agendasc/20081215ph.pdf

and the full schedule and additional information here:
http://www2.cityofseattle.net/council/EventSearchCouncil.asp?From=Self&amp;date=12/15/2008&amp;date2=12/15/2008&amp;month=12&amp;year=2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just in:</p>
<p>Council President Richard Conlin got in touch to let me know the hearing will be held on December 15, 2008 at 5:30pm and will be open to public comment.</p>
<p>The agenda is here: <a href="http://www.seattle.gov/council/agendasc/20081215ph.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.seattle.gov/council/agendasc/20081215ph.pdf</a></p>
<p>and the full schedule and additional information here:<br />
<a href="http://www2.cityofseattle.net/council/EventSearchCouncil.asp?From=Self&#038;date=12/15/2008&#038;date2=12/15/2008&#038;month=12&#038;year=2008" rel="nofollow">http://www2.cityofseattle.net/council/EventSearchCouncil.asp?From=Self&#038;date=12/15/2008&#038;date2=12/15/2008&#038;month=12&#038;year=2008</a></p>
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		<title>By: rhaglund</title>
		<link>http://www.gardenhelp.org/arboriculture/seattle-tree-ordinances-up-for-review-by-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-8820</link>
		<dc:creator>rhaglund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you find the tree list? If not, look here: http://www.seattle.gov/Transportation/treeplanting.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you find the tree list? If not, look here: <a href="http://www.seattle.gov/Transportation/treeplanting.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.seattle.gov/Transportation/treeplanting.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.gardenhelp.org/arboriculture/seattle-tree-ordinances-up-for-review-by-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-8818</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this! I was just on the city arborist part of the Seattle site yesterday and didn&#039;t see anything about this. But I was just looking at the list of prohibited trees so maybe I skipped over the mention. Looks like some good changes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this! I was just on the city arborist part of the Seattle site yesterday and didn&#8217;t see anything about this. But I was just looking at the list of prohibited trees so maybe I skipped over the mention. Looks like some good changes!</p>
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